Books Podcast: presidential lessons from Lincoln to Trump, with Doris Kearns Goodwin
In this week’s books podcast, I’m speaking to the Pulitzer-prizewinning historian Doris Kearns Goodwin about her new book Leadership: Lessons from the Presidents for Turbulent Times — in which she describes what Lincoln, two Roosevelts and LBJ had in common, and didn’t. Obviously, we talk a bit about that nice Mr Trump — as well as