Divided nation: will Covid rules tear the country apart?

In this second round of restrictions, the lockdown is no longer national. But a regional approach is full of political perils (00:45). Plus, the real reason to be disappointed in Aung San Suu Kyi (12:50) and is Sally Rooney’s Normal People just overrated (26:15).

With The Spectator’s political editor James Forsyth; Middlesbrough mayor Andrew Preston; historian Francis Pike; the Myanmar bureau chief for Reuters Poppy McPherson; journalist Emily Hill; and The Times’s deputy books editor James Marriott.

Presented by Cindy Yu.

Produced by Cindy Yu and Max Jeffery.