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So can anyone get Trump out of the Oval Office? It’s not that he’s such a brilliant president – he’s not – but that the 17 candidates vying for the Democratic nomination are all united by what Freddy Gray calls ‘a mesmerising mediocrity’. So is Freddy right? Lara Prendergast talks to him on the podcast, as well as Karine Jean-Pierre, former deputy campaign manager for Obama’s 2012 presidential campaign. It’s safe to say that Karine doesn’t quite agree – she argues that what some see as lacklustre performance from some Democratic candidates are simply down to a lack of name recognition in a field with giants like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden.
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