In a wide-ranging conversation at the White House yesterday evening, Donald Trump was in the mood to talk about everything under the sun – from the speedy success his second administration has had putting fear into the hearts of bureaucrats and Eurocrats, to why he believes there is a path to a balanced budget. He spoke to The Spectator for the first magazine interview of his second term, following a major day of international politics with his meeting with prime minister Keir Starmer.
One of his most interesting comments concerned a conversation with President Joe Biden, in the aftermath of the 2024 election, on the question of whom he blamed for being pushed out of his role. Trump told me in the interview:
‘I went to the White House a few months before this all happened. I guess I had won… [Biden] asked for a meeting, and I went and we talked for a little while… and I asked him, I said, “So who do you blame?” Because he was very angry, you know – he’s a very angry guy, actually.
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