‘Net zero is a complete and utter disaster’: Nigel Farage and Jordan Peterson in conversation

This is an edited transcript of a conversation between Jordan Peterson and Nigel Farage at the 2025 Arc Conference.

Jordan Peterson: At the Arc conference yesterday, Scott Tinker outlined a vision of the future, and it’s not a net zero vision, I can tell you that. It’s a vision where we cooperate to do everything we possibly can to drive energy prices down as low as they can possibly be, using everything at our disposal. Nuclear, coal, gas, oil, solar, wind, whatever can compete. Because the most effective way of enriching the absolutely poor and serving long-term environmental needs is to make people wealthy so they can afford to care about the future, especially in the developing world. And so I’m kind of wondering: do you have an opportunity now – because the right is split in the UK – to really hash things out on the conservative side? This sort of thing happened in Canada, and that means that it’s possible now for conservatives to push the envelope.