There’s lots of interesting stuff in Martin Kettle’s Guardian interview with the Maximum Tone but this struck me as a telling, revealing moment:
Emphasis added. Definitions matter, of course, and I’m happy to take Blair at his word vis a vis British policy.One thing I want to say before the Guardian readership particularly is that this notion that I have ever condoned or would ever condone torture in any circumstances is complete rubbish. I totally disagree with it and I would never condone it, not in any set of circumstances. I think it is not just morally wrong. I think it is an extremely foolish and stupid way to try to gather information. I don’t know where this has all come from. I don’t know whether people in other countries, like the US, were doing these things. I honestly don’t know. And therefore when people say “Will you condemn it?” I say I’m not going to condemn something I really don’t know about.

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